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xKamikazex
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Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 02, 2008, 09:00:42 PM »
As you may recall, MWLL did a survey back last year asking the community which Vulture/Mad dog Art style they prefered - Original CBT or the Microsoft MW4
(Click here for Link to old Survey).
Since the Votes were neck and neck, we asked the community if they would like to see a Hybrid version. A very positive response came back to us giving us the go ahead on creating it.
Now for the first time, we would like to present to you our Hybrid Vulture!
MWLL would like to know what you think of the new Vulture Design. Please rate out of 5 how good you think the New Hybrid Design is and feel free to post any comments about it as well.
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 02, 2008, 09:34:25 PM »
Looks like balls
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March 02, 2008, 09:45:15 PM »
golden balls or diamond balls?
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March 02, 2008, 10:03:54 PM »
Crystal balls.
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 02, 2008, 10:58:02 PM »
well it looks nice, but get rid of the nose canons and change the arms that does not look too good something is off. i rate this about 3 out of 5
other than that i would say it looks very good.
make the arms like the cbt version but only 'buffer' if thats the word to use.
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ttsolo
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 03, 2008, 03:08:51 AM »
I prefer the 2 firsts models ^^
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Arch Dreary
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 03, 2008, 03:51:19 AM »
I've Voted 3 out of 5, The arm cannons are made Hybrid, I thought people wonted Mad Dog arms because there iconic in a way. Also, the arms seem to be raised up in the air too much(not in a very relaxed position). Besides the arm cannons and arms, theres these odd gaps on the mech. One is in between the right window of the cockpit and the right missile pack(might be the view). Another is on top of the nose mount that is hooked up to the medium pulse laser barrels. The small gap for the barrels is OK, but not the gap that is between the nose mount and the center torso.
The Left and right torsos look awesome! The left/right torsos are missing a gap that shows up where they are connected to the center torso(Mad Dog Trait). I believe this gap was to try and show the left/right torsos were separately made(it can be lived without)but wouldn't a Separately made part be easier to fix or replace?
The Cut in the center torso what is it's purpose? Will only textures tell what it's for? Isn't the turret post to be the Mad Dogs Square mounted medium lasers? Maybe the Turret can be the Cut Some How? I think the turret should be on this mech. It is also iconic to MW4 players and it will show that the Vulture is in there. The Center leg connector is good, but that block thats on top is awfully sticking out and doesn't seem like it's connected to the center of the mech.
Finally, I got to post about the legs. The legs are not the original Mad Cat looking like legs that the Mad Dog and Vulture(that is in MW4 gameplay). The Vulture in the MW4 Intro legs are on this mech. These legs are identical to a 90TON jump jetting Mad Cat MKII. The reason for a Mech to have the same legs as another is to Lower costs of producing mechs. These legs are probably not as armored or big as the MCMKII legs because there made for a 60TON Mech. The real problem with these legs is that the Vulture is not a jump jetting mech. A jump jetting mech would have legs that are built to with stand a landing after falling from jump jet useage. Also a little heat protection from the jets. Why would vulture need these more costly legs?
There also might be more Problems but I can't really say sense theres only a front view of the mech, no back view, and it's hard to see the top of the mech in the front view. The other pictures of the Vulture and the Mad Dog Are slightly slanted so you can see the top.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1441/madcathb1.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4811/tempxmadcatmk2ex7.jpg
http://www.anthonyonline.net/stuff/cg/vulture02.jpg
Sorry if I was a little too harsh.
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 03, 2008, 03:58:59 AM »
To be honest it looks more like a med mech. The angled arms aren't working for me. I like the style of toe of the second one but i like the angles of the toe better on the first one. (more angled and spread apart) I do like the underslung nose cannon but I like how the mw4 vulture has that flare on the nose for the cannon. (just narrow the middle part a bit) I also assume this is a wip because the CT isn't very detailed. One last thing, the long barrels on the arms also look a bit odd. I would suggest either a snubbed nose barrel or something along the lines of this Thor's right arm... (
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2493/sumc1fa9.jpg
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Anyway, those are my crits. My rating is 2.8, it looks good but it still could go a long way.
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zaha
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 03, 2008, 05:26:04 AM »
First of all, I have to say I really like the new arms. They look like the perfect hybrid between the two versions to me. I never liked the original arms of the vulture, they looked lame and boring. I never liked the mw4 vulture arms, either. They looked to stiff and wannabe futuristic. But your hybrid version really kicks ass, it looks futuristic and kickass while adhering the traits of the original look somehow. Impressive!
The only thing I have to criticise about the arms is the same Arch Dreary already said: The posture of the arms is to high, they don't look good this way. I would like to see them sunken like the arms in the original version, I don't think keeping the arms raised in the middle between the two versions will look any good. I think those sunken, relaxed arms are an important visual trait of the vulture.
The center torso looks too bulky in my opinion, the vulture is a rather slender mech and a bulky center torso does not do this justice. I never liked the bulkiness of the mw4 version since it let's the vulture look like a heavy assault mech. But, what I liked in the mw4 variant were the additional details they engraved in the center torso, this is something worth to keep.
This also applies to the left and right torso, of course: They've got 4 rocket hole columns while the original vulture has only 3. This results in broader side torso. They have to be more slender, too. Otherwise it would not look well-proportioned.
The left and right torso (rocket pods) look really good, they are a good tradeoff between the two variants. Just two things: First, there's this block above the rocket holes. It's to far behind, it should be resized to be 50% longer (meaning 50% more ahead). Hope I could make myself comprehensible somehow ^^'
Second, I also think there should be a gap between the rocket pods and the center torso to emphasize the modularity of clan omni technology.
I like the base frame to which the legs are connected, looks great. But, I don't like the legs. Please keep the original legs of the vulture. Like Arch Dreary said, they look to heavy for the vulture. The original legs look sleek and slender, that's how it has to be. The vulture is a fast and mobile mech, providing firepower from medium to long range. Heavy, bulky legs won't fit this traits.
Despite of all this criticism, I want to point out how much I appreciate your concern and efforts to satisfy both, battletech and mechwarrior fans. You're on the right way, keep up the good work!
sincerely,
mike
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 03, 2008, 09:05:03 AM »
No it doesn't work really, it compramises whats good about both of the first designs.
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 03, 2008, 09:37:40 AM »
It gets a resound "meh" from me. I like the arms, general torso look, and the lower legs (though they could be more in scale with the rest. The chin gun, hips, and feet do not look good as a whole on this Mech.
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 03, 2008, 07:39:19 PM »
I'd have to say "meh" as well, although I said it sucks at first.
Upon taking some time to look at it, I have a few suggestions.
1) The arms need to go. Sorry, that simple. I agree with what others are saying, a slightly beefed up version of the CBT Mad Dog's arms would be perfect.
2) I always did like the chin turret on the MW4 Vulture, and I do like how it's incorporated in the the torso to keep the look of both mechs, so you hit the nail on the head there IMO.
3) One of the things about Clan Omnimechs is they were designed to have interchangeable parts, and not just their weapons. Ever realize how the Hellbringer (Loki) and Summoner (Thor) have the exact same legs? The same is true for the Timberwolf and Mad Dog. You simply need to use the Mad Dog's legs in this case. There's no compromising here IMO.
4) Back to the arms: I think the current length of the upper arm -> lower arm section is good, the only thing that needs is to be moved to an angle roughly half of what is on the Mad Dog compared to the Vulture (take an exact middle ground basically). The wider torso simply calls for the arms to be closer to the body, as they are now in the hybrid, the angle they are at just needs work.
5) For the arms, something similar to what is on there now may work. I would flip the arms 90 degrees inward (top towards the torso) along the forward axis (towards camera). Then shrink the aft portion of the lower arms to make the laser barrels closer in size to that portion. They're lasers remember, they don't need room for ammunition bins or anything like that. A heat sink or two would be a good thing to add to those areas.
I still feel the CBT Mad Dog is the only way to go though
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 04, 2008, 03:31:27 AM »
I donīt like it. Not because it's an ugly model, it's just not a Vulture. You see it on the battlefield and think: What the hell is this?!
The CBT Version is my fav.
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 04, 2008, 03:47:03 AM »
I like it! Looks very nice and is a good hybrid of both versions! Keep up the good work.
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Re: Vulture Hybrid Revealed!
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March 04, 2008, 04:06:56 AM »
Quote from: ttsolo on March 03, 2008, 03:08:51 AM
I prefer the 2 firsts models ^^
Word!
I'd rather stick to the original models, I think the fans would like it more.
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