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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2008, 04:51:29 AM »
I think the angle may have something to do with it. I absolutly LOVED it the first time I saw it, and I couldn't understand why I didn't care as much for it in this picture until I opened the model itself.

Here is a bit of simple coloring job I did while bored (I am NOT A MODELLER, TEXTURE ARTIST, or anything along those lines...i was bored and installed max.)



Also, I  half expect to be told to pull this model, as it's nothing official at all. Just the same model from a (I think better) angle.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2008, 05:37:32 AM »
I'd say, turn on the light, MWLLKeeper! Grin
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2008, 06:02:57 AM »
eee... i only can say "meh"... Something wrong is with this Hybrid Version... I was expectingm something something like a beefed up CBT Version? Maybe classic CBT version beefed up whith nose turret? Don't know...

BTW. I have a question, does this versions of Mad-Dog have diffrences in statistics? You know, speed, weapons, armor? Maybe you should add posibility to select between CBT, MW4 and Hybrid version? Similar thing will be in Black Mesa Source mod for Half-Life 2 players will be able to select between Colt M4A1 from High Definition pack and Mp-5 from classic Half-Life? ( if player will select for example CBT version he will see every Mad-Dog in this version... Smiley )
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2008, 08:51:43 AM »
I like it. The old CBT version looked alot meaner than the MW4 version, though I always thought the MW4 looked more practical (however I was also very partial to the MW4 version because of the chin turret and the opening video to that game). At the angle of the arms seems a little wierd, but other than that I thinks its a very good model. But don't get rid of the nose cannon, if you want to make a hybrid that will have to stay. But yeah, I'd say change the angle of those arms slightly and widen the angle between the toes. Otherwise its good, I don't think anyone would see it and not think its a Vulture (Mad Dog)

I also think you will never be able to make everyone happy because both versions are so popular with the fans.
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2008, 09:40:54 AM »
The biggest problem is that it looks short.
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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2008, 09:56:05 AM »
I quite like the design and think overall it is a great job that is just in need of a little tweeking.

I like the torso, missile racks, and cockpit - they look fantastic.

The arms like others have mentioned look like they need their stance relaxed. Maybe even try changing the orientation of the gun pods... so that they are horizontal and have a closer layout to the CBT Vulture.

The legs overall look good I think, maybe just make the armor on them a little more curvy, and i think the feet should be made to closer resemble the CBT Vulture's feet. Also the new Vultures stance looks wrong. The CBT one looks tall and sort of majestic... this one seems quite squat... and reminds me of a Bushwacker. If you could change the angle the knee is bent at, maybe increase it so as to make the Mech taller I think it would do a lot. Mechs can share the exact same legs but they don't weigh the same, so a lighter mech chassis would ride higher...

I love the nose cannon from MW4 but thinnk it is too wide and needs to be narrowed..

As I said overall the work is fantastic, and while we can all say things that we think need to be improved in our opinions, kudos to you for creating this - it is increadible work.
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2008, 10:02:29 AM »
As a long standing BattleTech fan, anything other than the original classic model seems blasphemous to me. However, if the model used in the mod is destined to be something other than the classic model...let it not be this hybrid. As many are pointing out, something just feels "off" about it. Perhaps a more satisfying compromise would be to keep the classic style torso, give it the MW4 style arms, classic style legs that are perhaps beefed up (but please, keep the spurs, they're essential to this mech's look), and if you have to, throw the chin turret on, although I've always hated that absolutely useless addition. I can never forgive Microsoft for bastardizing such a good looking mech.

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« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2008, 01:33:22 PM »
It's not too bad but some serious meat needs to be added to the legs, especially the feet. Other than that for a hybrid pretty good.
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2008, 02:08:13 PM »
I appreciate the effort you guys are putting into this game, and the care you're taking to make sure it's a community creation.

However, I don't like the legs.  I'm not an artist by any means, but those things jumped out at me.  The original rounded components not only look better, but IMO are more practical.  They're narrow, so they're harder to hit from the front, and rounded to better deflect fire.  When I think of ways to take less damage, large, flat surfaces facing my opponent, and sharp angles don't come to mind.
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« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2008, 03:48:24 PM »
Only thing I would like to see tweaked, give those arms just a little more bulk...so it doesnt appear one LRM volley or ER laser alpha, will wipe them out.
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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2008, 04:35:25 PM »
Quote from: zaha on March 04, 2008, 05:37:32 AM
I'd say, turn on the light, MWLLKeeper! Grin

Heh, sorry I actually couldn't figure out how to change the background color in a render  Grin

As I said, I have no experience at all in 3ds Max.

Also, I wouuuuldn't worry about the vulture being short... it was made with a reference human model...and he comes up to...oh say it's ankles  Roll Eyes In fact, if you highlight the picture (sorry again about the lights) you can see the reference model.


Thanks everyone for the good comments coming now. I'm not sure how much more time the art team wants to invest in a single model at this point (after all, you can never make EVERYONE happy, and if you spend too much time trying you make no one happy   Cool ) but everyone here appreciates constructive criticism, and they will do what they can.
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« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2008, 06:03:13 PM »
I Like the Hybrid. I looks like it packs both punch and speed. Great work!

One little suggestion though......WIPE THAT SMIRK OFF HIS FACE...lol
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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2008, 11:55:23 PM »
keep the mw4 vulture body, minus the nose canon but keep the nose 'flare', beef up the cbt vulture arms and u got a winner, and everybody is happy. well at least 80% of us i would say
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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2008, 05:15:43 AM »
With a nose like that, the vulture could smoke while taking a shower  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2008, 06:55:39 AM »
I like these. It's pretty good; the arm angle needs to be lowered somewhat and the legs absolutely must be CBT.

But wonderful nonetheless!
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