*Perks up and stares at the ball*

And it may be the longest join team thread, but I don't think anyone here minds trying to give helpful suggestions to anyone trying to learn. (Trying to learn being the key part. Wanting others to guide them step by step...well that we don't really have time for  )

Four pages of DEVS doing nothing but making JOKES ... what a show-case for the Team!

As is the reason I do ...


ToeBall in my eyes one joke in another persons application is one to many ... imagine that you sat infront of your-boos-to-be and he, oh yeah praises your work to-an-extent, but for the rest of the time is just joking! How would you feel, plainly dumb returning, again and again


ToeBall thanks for the respons, and I can follow you mostly thou. But I´m not talking explicitely from my own view of the site and neihter how only I see the Devs way of behaving. Anybody I know personally has dissed me for spending to much time on this site alone, and said, time and again, that you all would rather joke around, than take it seriously, please dont take such things too personal (then again you would be a rock if you didnt). But looking at the site, overall, I can surely understand that you´ll have to blow-off some steam in your off-time, but it actually drags the projects ability to "look-sharp-and-profesionally-made" drastically downwards! Especially when joking around in an application, as it is!
Yes I know that I sometimes can be a sarcastic baststard, but one thing you should know (by now) ToeBAll, is that I am sensire and honest in my words! And honoured and praised your work I have done since June 2007! why do you think I started in 3D modelling in the first place, I looked at this site, over and over again, saying to myself, they´re  too good to be true, I want to be as good as they, but hey I dont have any schooling at all, so Ill just drag along behind for now...

Thanks again for the respond ToeBall

Yeah super duper uber secret! So pssshhhh

Again, if there are specific complaints or suggestions, I'm always willing to listen, but to expect pure professionalism from people who are doing this after comming home from school or their full time job is unreasonable and unrealistic. Some friendly banter will happen, and it should. There are areas where it's fair to expect profesionalistic behavior and areas where it isn't. I agree that doing so in a join the team thread is less than ideal, but what is it you'd expect? Do I need to chew out Defender and Keeper for it despite the fact that they are some of the hardest working members on the team?

I haven't taken anything you said personally. A personal attack uses something the person is ashamed of or uncomfortable with and I don't have any such feelings in regards to this project. I do find it distastefull to have to explain that, yes, we do want skilled people to join the team, but right now we're so busy with the mod and the news letter that we don't have as much time as we'd like to reply to every application immediately. Belive me, we review the apps very quickly but it's not always easy to be able to provide constructive criticism when the answer is no. As we get closer to the alpha, our time gets tighter and we don't have as much time to bring along new team members (lets face it, if you were good enough to be a professional you'd probably be a professional at it, as it's something you enjoy doing) and while we don't mind doing it in general, there are times when we can't do that without sacrificing the quality of the product. As a result our standards for accepting team members goes up. Someone that would have been accepted back in March may not be in June because we simply don't have as much time to teach them what they need to know as we'd like.