Try reading what i actually said mate.
Or maybe your the one who should go back to school to learn to read.
I said
And you said
So your point is?

Also please point out my overwhelming lack of knowledge on these matters.
As i am sure i haven't posted much of the vast amounts i know and have read about on these subjects.
But if you would sooner make up stuff about me that fits you view then fine mate carry on.

Why would i want to subscribe to an American broadcast.Am i supposed to just view the world through an American perspective?What a narrow minded view that would be.
In fact it would consist of bringing up D Day and Pearl harbour every year.
But wait that whats started this whole thread isn't it.

What about Dunkirk,Stalingrad,Tubruck,El Alemain(which had been under seige and cut off for nearly a year when Pearl harbour happened),The fall of Singapore,The sinking of the Bismark and the Hood,The battle of the River Platte,The bombing of the Tirpitz,Kursk the Cockleshell Heroes,The Raid on St Nazire.The battle of Britain
Do you want me to go on or do you think this is the limit of my undereducated mind.
You know all the other events that helped change the course of WWII.
Not forgetting the overwhelming loss that the Russians suffered so we in the west could be free.More died on the Russian front than all the other fronts put together.But is that ever mentioned.
Not often.

Please point me to where i disrespected the veterans?
As i am too stupid to see this.
As i see WWII  re-enactments  where the guys are smiling whist being under fire.
Hows that for disrespect.
As i said earlier i used to re enact Viking and Saxon battles.One of the first things we were taught before going in front of the public was acting in character.
IE if you are in the midst of a battle act like it.None of this crappy laughing and smiling.Try to look like you are bricking it.


Did i not explain about how we hold a poppy day every year to honour the fallen?
Yes mate you right about the valour and honour but then i havn't been through a life changing event like WWII.So your point is?
If its to try and wind me up then its a piss poor attempt as there is now way i could ever match what they did.(Nor would want to)

In fact what have you done that matches what they did?
What can any one who was born to young to partake know?

Maybe your the one who should go back to school mate.
Try spelling for a start off.
For your info i am not young,uneducated or a Nazi(which always makes me smile that you get called a Nazi for having a different view to someone else),Couldn't you call me a stinking Commie instead as that a much nicer name.But then we didn't fight against them in WWII so that wouldn't work.

Ohh so you brought this up again. You are persistent so I will indulge your banter with a cunning response. Give me a few days to get it to you on here as I have other thigns to do and it will no doubt be time consuming. The breadth and width of your inaccuracy's will require detailed exploration and a thought rite explanation. Some others however could be distilled in the truthyness from wise quotes already posted.


EDIT:

forget it i dont have the time

Thought so mate.
You can't back up the bollocks you posted.
So we will just leave it at that.
CYA

Yeah, I guess it would somehow be like that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyashio_class_submarine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harushio_class_submarine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_ATD-X
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_OH-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Type_89_IFV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komatsu_LAV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumitomo_NTK-62
etc.

They remind the younger generations that this world we live in was fought and died for. There was a time when if not for them we would all be living under the vail Natzisim and tyranny.

Actually yes we did. After WWI Germany had to sign treaties that said they could only build a few small naval vessels. We did that so they would not cause more trouble. Those agreements were not enforced. Germany broke them when they built navel vessels that were to many and to big. Nothing happened and they launched WWII. We then learned that pages of paper with names on them do not always dictate the actions of those who sine begrudgingly. But we DID do something about it, just not enough. People have been making navel treaties in that part of the world for thousands of years. For thousands of years they have been having mixed results.

Yes it has allot. It was the world largest scale war ever fought. It was the first war to be fought with nuclear weapons. You may not have noticed but nuclear weapons became kind of a hot button after WWII with Russia and we kinda needed to know what an atomic war was like. Aside from the actual technical reasons for its relevance, it has allot more to offer. The world is in a struggle with a potentially nuclear armed menace in the East who bares a strange resemblance to Hitler. Ied say that a tenuous struggle and debate over armed conflict with a Nazi Germany wannabe poser and the likelihood they wont be the last makes it fairly relevant.

You think that just because of Korea and Vietnam we didnt learn anything from WWII? You think that means they are not important? Show me the guy who told you war was easy and fun. No one ever said that. You'd be an idiot for believing him or thinking so. Those were very different wars from WWII. It was gorilla warfare, not men in uniforms with badges and ribbon. There was no code of honor in Vietnam. Perhaps we did go back on a few of the things we learned from WWII, but that in no way what so ever implys there are no lessons to be learned from WWII. Your not an expert on war history so your not exactly qualified to be making those kinds of decisions any way. How can you know we didn't learn anything  unless you were there? The BBC news reporter isn't going to tell you those things. So I ask you, what about them? What about them proves we didn't learn anything at all from WWII? Did you know that in WWII over 60% of the troops were blind firing and not shooting to kill? Did you know that we overhauled our training in order to prevent that? How is that not something we learned from WWII that helped us? How? Because you seem to think that there is nothing anywhere that has made any difference. As if that actually mattered because you fail to see that that's not even the main point. We remember D-Day and PHD because we love thinking about how awesome we are and how brave and mighty our soldiers were. We do it because we loved them, not because we loath them. We do it because thinking about how they died brings a tear to out eyes, it fills us with emotions and knowledge that you don't seem to understnad, and for you, I am truly sorry. They love their boys in U.S.A. and their not going to forget. They know that no matter how many years we remember and honor them, we can never show them the love they showed us when they spilled their blood so we could cover our hearts and take off our hats. We can never repay the debt we owe them, and we can never forget why we needed them


In a word, OWNED


Wrong. The Chinese did not fight in WWII they way others did. They are corrupt. One of the very important lessons we learned from WWII is that there will always be evil and tyranny in the wold, the only thing evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Are you suggesting we invade China to stop them form bashing protesters? The lessons from WWII actually teach us that things like things like Tibet and Iraq WILL happen. Nice try any way.


Only if you dont go to school. Nice.


The Christmas truce. When the Germans and the French stopped their fighting for one day in the tranches. They shared smoke and wine and sang Christmas carols in their native tongues. On that day they learned the horrible things they had heard about each other were not actually true. There were just like each other, people having to do their jobs even when it was the shitty job of killing one another. I wasn't there to remember it but I remember it from The History Channel. Its one of my favorite things to watch on TV every Christmas. Its not only the second best Christmas story ever its also an important lesson that holds allot of personal meaning to me. Knowing about it has enriched my life and made me a better person because of it. Why should those types of things be forgotten? You seems to think it doesn't matter but for people like me the story's change our lives in ways that they never could have been otherwise. Why do you want that to be forgotten?



Your rite never heard of them sorry. Im sure they hold allot of meaning and are worth looking up so I will study them, thank you telling me about them. Never the less, not knowing them hasnt stopped the things I do know from being very important and meaningful in my life.


K, well tell that to the president of Iran who still hold true to the ideals of the Nazis. They are fast at work building a bomb. Hes quoted as saying that one of the most influential books he has ever read was Mine Kampf. He wants to wipe Israel off the map and kill all Jews. Yeah, the relevance to today is negligible and the ideals and reasons are WAAAAAAAAAY TOTALLY gone. Good one man. Thanks for the info, Ill be sure to keep that diddly rite next to Al Gores thesis on why we should invest 100% of our portfolios into corn based ethanol.


I'm all for historical accuracy but here you confuse me. You have a respect for accuracy but seem to not respect why it is important.  I do not have an expansive knowledge on real live role playing war re-enactments. However, if some people are passing off shoddy work as historical fact its a shame. A full scale real life reenactment is a difficult thing to pull off. You do bring up a good point. People reenact WWII all the time in WWII video games. They are fun but I personally always have a tinge of hesitation about playing them. Mostly because of how well educated on history I am. If I had not been educated like I am I would not understand the importance of accuracy and respect. If games don't accurately portray the events of WWII or if they depict it in a false manner I wont play it. These types of games have usually been glorified history books so its usually not a problem. Funny thing, more realistic games like COD4 more accurately depict what the hell of war must be like. Older games used to make me want to be a soldier, CoD4 makes me NOT want to go to war!


Come on man, be real. If you don't think WWII is relevant, then you are going to HAVE to dis explain the wisdom of such quotes that you quoted and argued against.
 

"I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know no way of judging of the future but by the past." -Edward Gibbon

Thanks Iron, now I can sit back with a smile

1. I'm an American and I live in America, that's why its always PHD and D-Day among many others. Again I ask you SO THE FUCK WHAT? I already addressed this issue in a statement you decided not to quote from for some odd reason. If you want the answer read my last posts because I directly talked about it. I live in America where we remember an respect American and other countries days. We may not have a day dedicated to every WWII battle but that would be ridiculous. In fact we remember them any way when we study history, that's my point. Just because we don't have a day for them doesn't mean we don't think they matter. But again I ask WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to be asking ME why we don't have days for those events when you don't think they should be remembered at all?

2. Ok mate I never said WWII started on PHD. I specifically said ITS WHEN THE USA ENTERED WWII. Your point is moot. And you DID imply that it wasn't a major anniversary when you said that over there you ONLY RECOGNIZE MAJOR ANNIVERSARY implying that PHD was in fact NOT a major anniversary.

3. You cant make a point with one word. Sorry that doesn't fly.

4. One thought, global nuclear war. That's what would happen if attacked China.

5. WWII is NEVER going to be forgotten. You seem to think it should be, that has been the idea for ALL of your posts. You have not given a single reason for why it should be and have not replied to any of the reasons for why it shouldn't be. I was well versed in the Persian wars before the movie "300" came out. Those were a few thousand years ago and no one has forgotten them yet. I don't even know what you mean the natural progression of time. Again I say that wars should not be forgotten as they are the best tool man has for understanding him self. Wars have always been and always will be some of the most historically important events in time. Do you think Napoleon went to war without studying it first? No he didn't.

6. Oh so now it matters? I thought you didn't want any one to remember these types of things. Or is it just the things you want people to remember? I find it funny that your telling me how sad it is for me that I don't know the names in a thread where you are trying to convince people that it doesn't matter. If some one thinks it is(i guess???) I will go out of my way to learn about it as you requested. But doesn't that contradict your main point?


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