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Exanimous
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31,000 Scientists against Global Warming caused by humans, What do you think?
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July 03, 2008, 11:12:57 PM »
Don't believe me? Click on this link:
http://www.google.com/search?q=31%2C000+scientists+global+warming&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3RNFA_enUS257US257
It was very recent, and all this talk about the "green channel" and your "carbon footprint" and "An Inconvenient Truth." now all seems like a big sham. Do you believe global warming is caused by humans? What do you think of this startling turn?
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Re: 31,000 Scientists against Global Warming caused by humans, What do you think
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July 04, 2008, 09:51:41 AM »
I haven't believed humans had that much to do with it for awhile now. Although I'm sure we don't help a whole lot. Its been pretty much proven now that global warming is a cycle, none the less it can't be that great for us either way. Makes me glad I live inland
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Re: 31,000 Scientists against Global Warming caused by humans, What do you think?
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July 04, 2008, 10:07:02 AM »
I believe global warming was caused by an increase in the Earth's temperature :downs:.
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Re: 31,000 Scientists against Global Warming caused by humans, What do you think?
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July 04, 2008, 10:31:40 AM »
I may have only studied computer science and not meteorolgy but having been told quite a few times that global warming would cause an ica age kinda made me suspicious. I don't remeber ever trying to make ice by heating it up but it does seem contraindicated...
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Exanimous
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July 05, 2008, 11:32:10 AM »
I believe you're right, that is why it is more reasonable to say we are coming 'out of an' ice age than about to go into one.
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July 05, 2008, 05:44:26 PM »
Well the idea is that as the ice melts it would have a signigicant impact on some specific ocean current and eliminating it. This would actually cause the earth to instead go colder instead of hotter. Can't really remember the specifics.
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July 06, 2008, 10:25:18 AM »
I think the general thing about Global Warming ISN'T literally warming, but global climate change (which might be what this statistic is based from).
I.E. The northern area's might get abnormally warm weather, while some southern area's and desert-climates might receive abnormally cold/snowy weather.
Some area's might get abnoramlly lots of rain annually while other area's would dry up like a desert.
I honestly think the whole global warming thing is simply based off annual global temperatures on average, and not some kind of actual detailed report on different climate zones, which scews the perception and results of the data abit. The good ol' "average temperature of the earth" to me seems like a strange statistic to quote considering every area and climate zone of Earth is completely different, and in several areas actually, it was reported record cool temperatures.
If all this is true, then what happens wouldn't really be global warming, but would have the climate meeting more "extremes" in temps instead of a middle ground (in otherwords climates might more often be in the two different extremes of hot and cold on average instead of being mild).
Let me tell you though, here in Ohio, I've hardly had any hot weather this summer and it's in july. It's almost like a REALLY late spring, as we've been getting lots of rain and cooler temperatures. I don't think it's gotten 85F+ at all this summer yet here (which is very unusual). Then again that doesn't say much except that we have had a cold summer so far.
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July 10, 2008, 12:31:42 AM »
The Global warming stuff is based on computer models of the atmosphere. These are the same models that so accurately predict our weather a week or two in advance.
Now the further out in the future the predictions are, the less accurate they become.
So for tomorrow's prediction the models may be a bit better than my arthritis, but a month or 2 down the road they are tied with the woolly caterpillar. For six months or more, trust Punxsutawney Phil (for you out of towners, he is the official groundhog from Pennsylvania).
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July 10, 2008, 12:33:42 AM »
That's a good point Beowulf, but the question is, was an Inconvenient truth based on such data? And is it possible to be more accurate than that?
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July 10, 2008, 12:44:46 AM »
Quote from: Exanimous on July 10, 2008, 12:33:42 AM
That's a good point Beowulf, but the question is, was an Inconvenient truth based on such data? And is it possible to be more accurate than that?
Good old Al based his "Inconvenient Truth" on bull.
The polar bears are not dying out. In fact there are more now than at any time since records have been kept. The Northern Ice cap is not melting as much as he claimed (The Southern ice cap is actually expanding) and those pictures of ice falling off are in fact a normal annual occurrence. That is where ice burgs come from (Remember the Titanic).
But we shouldn't be to hard on Al. He really needs a gig.
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Re: 31,000 Scientists against Global Warming caused by humans, What do you think?
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July 10, 2008, 01:42:23 AM »
So you're saying Al wasn't telling the truth when he blamed SARS and bird flu on global warming? NO! LIAR!!!
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July 10, 2008, 11:23:47 AM »
31,000 scientists? so what about the other couple hundred thousand?
statistics are just biased crap that the creator uses to make it seem like something is what it is not. since people are using them on both sides of the argument, why don't we just cut our pollutants, which have been proven to be harmful, ship our garbage into the sun, and wait and see if we all burn to death. who knows, maybe the climate will shift so much i can finally have my pet polar bear??
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Re: 31,000 Scientists against Global Warming caused by humans, What do you think?
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July 10, 2008, 09:54:29 PM »
lol click the link its not a statistic its just a count. And global warming is a BS propaganda front for socialism. If these people actually cared about the earth they would be talking about the mercury and led that coal burning produces and not the C02. I think its funny that people are dieing rite now from pollutants but these enviro-mentalists would rather talk about how it might kill us a few hundred years from now. GE whos the parent company of NBC sponsored a Green Week for the networks. GE has hundreds of hazardous clean up sites all over the USA that they refuse to deal with. Some of these sites have destroyed entire cities. Were wasting money trying to make cars in the USA cleaner when our cars account for about 2% of Co2 produced. So were spending and people are making billions of dollars based on a percent of a percent of a percent of an issue that has no hard evidence backing it up. Brilliant. If you want to stop Co2 then do something about the deforestation in South America. That whats actually causing it.
Its called the Green movement because green is the color of money, not because of the environment.
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Re: 31,000 Scientists against Global Warming caused by humans, What do you think?
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July 16, 2008, 11:28:45 AM »
I read the entire report review these scientists wrote and agreed on.
Fantastic stuff.
I believe the facts and support them.
Except one thing.
There is a huge amount of human hot air-gas from the mouths of Politicians that may contribute.
I have not done the calculations on that yet.
But, I am convinced it is affecting the Global Warming.
Just due to the huge amount given off the that type of air-gas...
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July 28, 2008, 10:17:15 AM »
lol.
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